My 2017 Mazda6 withe Skyativ-G 2.5 and Skyactiv-MT does not. The club is not part of Toyota nor affiliated with or endorsed by Toyota in any way. I've read many things on the interweb about clutch failure/wear. Clutch bite point is lowish but pretty much as it was with the bypass. My KIA soul clutch biteing point is about 10 mm from floor. How do I adjust it so the bite point is somewhere sensible? Hope that makes sense. Nah wasn't a honda garage, the guy was a plank thinking he could tell any old pooh. Was this always like this ,or do you have experience with this car having the bite point higher up . The clutch biting point is a technique of clutch control to provide driver with greater control of the car, often necessary to make hill starts. Ideas on whether this would be similar doing this to the 2.2 ? If this improves shifting at high rpm, defo trying this tomorrow. Anybody else own one of these just got one As a first car for a family member and noticed after driving 2 that it has such a high bite point,and revs it’s tits of from launch is it Normal for one of these 60 plate 36k miles cheers Post Tweet Arial Hi, This is my first forum discussion I have just purchased a Picanto 1 2013 for my daughter. Sometimes, though, I think it’s just luck of the draw with how the installation of the most recent clutch went. - posted in MX5 & General Car Chat: Im really not sure if I have a clutch issue or not. On normal driving you don't notice at all but when a significant changes, you do! Zigzagsky, Mar 10, 2014 #1. It has done 60,000 miles. Twist push rod in shown direction with long nose pliers to raise biting point from the floor. No mention is made of clutch adjustment in the Haynes manual Thanks Jon The clutch pedal biting point is fairly close to the floor so I am thinking that it probably needs adjusting but I can't quite see how this can be done. so, do you have one of … 1. by Anton2k3 » Wed Dec 23, 2009 1:58 pm I removed and inspected the old clutch a month ago, and decided it needed renewing, was almost down to rivets, so no clutch wasted here. civinfo.com is not in any way affiliated with Honda Motor Company. I've always struggled with the clutch on this car, as the biting point has always been very high and vague. Nearly all manuals will state; adjust the pushrod (if adjustable) clearance first or ensure the quadrant is in the correct position. Take the car to a flat, level surface such as a parking lot such that the car does not roll away when in neutral with brakes disengaged. The plastic hole in the arm looks to have worn, so it's no longer a snug fit. Good morning I bought a 63 plate Peugeot 208 1.2 from Evans Halshaw at the start of June. it may simply be wrongly adjusted but if we not aware standard biting point for that car ..as a normal datum point it may be ok. on the whole if its high ..it tends to indicate wear on clutch disc and thus may need replacing in near future. Verto clutch adjustment. It will just lower the pedal, it should be a little lower than the brake pedal. With the old damper it had reached the point with the pedal buried it was dragging bad enough to have to slam it into reverse to mesh and almost impossible to engage a forward gear stationary. There is a locking bolt holding the piston in position. I have loosened the lock nut holding the push rod but the pushrod cannot be twisted at all even using alot of force with appropriate pliers. If in doubt, take it into a Toyota dealer and get … This is less likely to be an issue -- but doesn't hurt. I got myself under the dash in the footwell and noticed the clutch master cylinder has a little plastic arm that protrudes can connects to a lug on the clutch metal. I did some research when I first noticed this and it seems that Aygos/C1s/107s of that generation are infamous for having high, vague biting points, so I wasn't worried initially. 3. The clutch on my mini has its bite point buried deep in the carpet. JavaScript is disabled. Sometimes, though, I think it’s just luck of the draw with how the installation of the most recent clutch went. I had a new racing clutch fitted a few months ago as the old oem one started slipping at high revs, but now the biting point is right at the end of the lever...I know there hydraulic clutches with no adjustment? So be careful about over-doing this adjustment with your aftermarket clutch. as for the clutch. Is it possible to adjust this? If you have a new clutch fitted they can adjust the biting point. When you get a new clutch, the pads are at full width and the biting point is lower. If you aren’t comfortable with the point at which your clutch engages, you can easily adjust it … Come join the discussion about performance, modifications, engine swaps, troubleshooting, wikis, VTEC, and more! by Casanova » Wed 30th Aug 2006, 01:53pm . TBH, the biting point on my Aygo has the highest biting point of any car I've driven, but I soon got used to it. I will add that due to access you can only turn the push rod a fraction at a time so its critical to mark it first so you know its moved. A hydraulic clutch is a self-adjusting clutch. To adjust the rod, wedge the clutch pedal down with a … When he said you can't change gears in vtec I should went asked to speak to a proper mechanic. The material contained in the forums is submitted by the general public and is NOT endorsed by Toyota (GB) PLC or the Toyota Owners' Club. It can be adjusted by shifting the piston forward or backwards from the clutch lever. My clutch biting point was getting very low again, I bled the system with a Mityvac, no change. How far i can go with adjusting to be safe..? Not sure if it's me or just a placibo but car feels nice and smooth not had chance to take on the motorway and see if changing to 5th and 6th are any better. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. As a clutch wear, it takes longer for the plates to come together which means your biting point gets higher. By joining our community, you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Twist push rod in shown direction with long nose pliers to raise biting point from the floor. My car has been written off:scream1:[smilie=mad.gif]. Took it for a test drive tonight and all the gears select fine, but the bite point is uncomfortably high, I barely need to move the pedal to shift gears. With a high biting point; the biting point is much closer to the end point of a fully released clutch pedal and is a good indicator of a worn-out clutch that needs replacing. The clutch biting point is a technique of clutch control to provide driver with greater control of the car, often necessary to make hill starts. Suzuki Club SG is the official club for all current & previous owners of Suzuki cars in Singapore. Any solutions? I got round it by screwing the bolt you undid up to the top and using that to turn the shaft. My newish 2008 1.5dci has a very high biting point on the clutch. I have recently realised that the clutch biting point is extremely high on it. I suspect it does NOT have a clutch freeplay adjustment. My new one only has about an inch of travel left after it bites, the clutch is not riding and it works fine. Adjusting The Clutch Bite-Point DISCLAIMER: Toyota Owners Club is an independent Toyota forum for owners of Toyota vehicles. Yet more say that the auto-adjustment … This process enables you to memorise the biting point of the clutch. Is it possible to adjust this? I had my local Hyundai dealer fit a new clutch to the V6 I had and they set the biting point much lower than it was. Loosen 12mm locking nut then release clutch. Measure the distance between the clutch operating lever and a point of reference such as the edge of the clutch housing. I have paid for the 2 years extended warranty but heard mixed reviews on it. A low biting point is an indicator of a new clutch.....or dodgy hydraulics. I've been having the same problem when I'm looking at cars around here, mine has a clutch stop and bite toward the very bottom of the travel, all the other ones bite higher in comparison. Biting point was so high my heel couldn’t be on the floor when releasing the clutch. However there are some pretty distinct and exact checks in the FSM re the pedal and freeplay and point of initial engagement to check. I have only just found this ,so can i physically adjust backwards too bring the clutch bite point inwards (if you know what i mean) or is the only adjustment on the large knurled knob.if anyone can advise thanks.After 21k miles i dont think the clutch is shot although i am not the first owner. Repeat this movement a few times, alternating between pulling the motorcycle with your feet and actuating the clutch in short movements. Posted 4 years ago Posted 18th Jul 2017. My only worry is that the clutch biting point is near the floor, causing regular stalling. Clutch Biting Point The issue of the clutch biting point seems to be a recurring issue in these posts and having just had to replace clutch and flywheel due to alleged "driver habits" with as yet no support from Mini and at a cost of € 1400, I am wondering to what extent the clutch action is contributing to early failure of clutch. When the clutch is engaged (foot off the pedal), the springs in the clutch press these three parts together so that the engine and the transmission are connected and spinning at the same speed. GTR Bodykit, Japspeed Exhaust, Drift Sump, Dump Valve, Turbo Timer, Tinted Windows. Venky, Yes buddy, you're correct, you can adjust where the pedal engages the clutch. the.porter 5. Loosen 12mm locking nut then release clutch. Measure the clearance again and readjust if necessary. Normally it means the clutch is worn and will need replacement in the near future. Page created in 0.373 seconds with 25 queries. You are currently viewing our forum as a guest, which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. That’s the biting point! As a simple explanation, if you imagine the clutch as two circular plates, one of the plates is connected to … Mine's a CTS1.8 by the way. To adjust, loosen the locknut and screw the adjuster nut as appropriate. Conversely, a low biting point means that the biting point is a lot closer to the end of a fully depressed clutch pedal and is a great indicator of an adjustment problem. Clutch BITING POINT MEANING. 2. No mention is made of clutch adjustment in the Haynes manual Thanks Jon The above adjustment is most often done to lower the stock VERY high clutch point.. Anyway I am delighted to say that The Threaded Rod is the answer to adjusting the clutch lever bite point. Just done mine, worked a treat thanks for that and to think when I bought the car I was a bit concerned about the bitting point so much I took it back to the place I got it from Leeds motor company and asked them about it being so low and could be adjusted. You move away from the lever it will give u a lower bite point, SimplePortal 2.3.6 © 2008-2014, SimplePortal, Suzuki(s) Owned: Audi A6, Swift ZC21S (1.5M). if the clutch is slipping the revs will pick up quickly and you won't go any faster! Since the friction material on the clutch plate will wear down over time, the hydraulic clutch will automatically adjust to compensate for this loss. Just tried to do this now. Hey mate, thank for this - makes perfect sense. My wife's Citroen C1 has a clutch biting point almost at the top of the pedal travel, making it hard work to drive at low speed. Hold a ruler parallel to the clutch cable and measure the travel of the operating lever. The biting point was essentially where other cars are set to. Normally it means the clutch is worn and will need replacement in the near future. Done this a while back on mine after Stoney suggested it, to improve high RPM shifts - worked perfectly! any ideas? The clutch is made up three main parts - the clutch plate, pressure plate and flywheel. Citroen c1 clutch bite point. Some say that a low point is bad, others high. Cant adjust, but you can try changing to lower clutch set to lower the biting point.. Content on civinfo.com is generated by its users. How do you adjust the engagement point of the clutch? The clutch on my single cab was way out of adjustment and was biting a couple of inches from the floor, so I adjusted the clutch last night and set it to have about 3/4 inch of free play. Or could it be something else? The engagement point for my 99 M3 is all the way in the bottom almost where the "dead zone" for most cars I've driven is.. Yes, this makes quick shifts nice and easy, but it just never feels 'right' getting off the line. 8th Generation Euro Honda Civic (2006 - 2011), Mr JP Bulbs- All Interior + Exterior Bulbs ❖, Hardness Pads ❖ Stealth Grill ❖ Cazza Rear Vinyl ❖ Carbon Wrapped Interior ❖ Pioneer Double Din System ❖ Lots of Ger's decals ❖ Thorpy's Front Carbon Blue H Badge, IMG_1395_zps884e88b6.mp4 Video by Lazytrev | Photobucket, adc414d4-6881-429a-9a6b-a065b3b72925_zpsa94e81ce.jpg, ef9f56d2-09d5-4e8e-9e3a-4287929d4976_zpseb861ac7.jpg, http://www.civinfo.com/forum/modification-projects/90994-swalesys-milano-fn2.html, VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 901, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada, civinfo.com is an independent Honda enthusiast website owned and operated by VerticalScope Inc. the way i've been told to test if a clutch is on its way is to drive at 30mph, in fourth gear, and put the throttle to the floor. Now the guy I spoke to was the head repairs, I also told him it was hard to change gears when in vtec, his reply was you can't change gears in vtec and you can't adjust the bitting point. Re: Clutch biting point adjustment? When he said you can't change gears in vtec I should went asked to speak to a proper mechanic. Don’t think bite point position relates to how borked the clutch is. Mine is almost at the end of the stroke, meaning it doesn't really engage until the lever is almost all the way back out. Thanks for taking the time and effort to post this "how to".... Nice job ? While holding the clutch pedal, select first gear. Registration is free, fast and simple, join us today! Just done this and what a difference it makes to VTEC gear changes. Gradually release the clutch and you will feel the motorcycle moving while the engine noise decreases. Though it may adjust enough to get it in the range you need while fully engaging and fully disengaging the clutch. Im thinking either the rod is bent or something else is holding it in place. Good how to! Hi folks, The biting point in my 1998 Passat 1.8T is really high. Basically all you have to do is completely remove the clutch lever (8mm nut and pivot bolt). Press the pedal only lightly into the carpet and you're off! Login with username, password and session length. Page 1 of 2 - Clutch biting point issue? A forum community dedicated to all Honda Civic owners and enthusiasts. As I just bought a pre fl swift sport I realise that the clutch is not running by cable and by hydraulic system and could I know how to adjust. Nodge68 Well-Known … A few months ago I had the front discs and pads changed, and I also asked them to check the clutch free play. There appears conflicting information. If the pedal is in line with the rest then to much adjustment will lower or rise the pedal and make it uncomfortable. The bolt on the back of the pedal box adjusts how far down the pedal will go. 1 full revolution for me was enough to raise the biting point from the floor to roughly 1/3 - 1/2 way up the pedal travel. Then adjust the cable at the handlebar to give a few mm or 1/4" free play before the clutch begins to engage. any ideas? Hi folks, The biting point in my 1998 Passat 1.8T is really high. given that it only has 40 miles it would seem unlikely to be a war issue and more likely either an simple adjustment issue or that is how car is designed. If you have tiny … :stoptech: Grooved Discs, :ferodo: DS2500 Front Pads, OEM Spec Rear Disc and rear pads, :toda: catback, :toda: delete kit, :wavetrac: LSD, :honda::neo: Quick Shifter, I think this would explain why mine has been ok, recently a decent main dealer redone my master cylinder, so looks like they may have adjusted it as well, good how to though and has it sorted your problem. I had a new racing clutch fitted a few months ago as the old oem one started slipping at high revs, but now the biting point is right at the end of the lever...I know there hydraulic clutches with no adjustment? Well worth the half hour or so it takes, all I would say is its worth having a decent 12 mm spanner to hand as you wouldn't want to destroy the locking nut and may be worth marking the threads on the cruise control micro switch for when you put it back on. Its a 1990 carb Cooper. I had the same problem. But adjusting that rod won't change where the biting point is. … Re: How adjust clutch biting point « Reply #2 on: July 23, 2014, 11:26:48 PM » It can be adjusted by shifting the piston forward or backwards from the clutch lever. Will give this a go on the weekend!!! Excellent tip, adjusted mine 3/4 of a turn, bite point now a couple of inches from floor & its also cured a bit of 'notchyness' when changing down into 2nd. 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