Without hope, we would sink into despair! TGÂ Man, a Spirit Child of Heavenly Father. Perhaps the most well-known advocate of this idea was John Calvin, a sixteenth-century French minister. (" 'And It Will Surprise You': Some Thoughts on Counting Our Blessings," Ensign, Feb. 1982, 62). 32 He that spared not his own aSon, but bdelivered him up for us all, how shall he not with him also freely give us call things? It is a place of special communion. We 'suffer with Christ' as we sacrifice the things of the world and yield complete obedience to every truth, principle, and ordinance of the gospel plan. Does it not stand to reason that a man who has received the gift of the Holy Ghost by the laying on of hands a man that has been born again of the water and of the Spirit, in accordance with the plan that God has instituted by which he may come into His fold, can get nearer to God than those that have not been born again, or those who have not been endowed with the Spirit of the Lord? 8 So then they that are ain the flesh cannot please God. 2:16) because his thought patterns are 'far from' Jesus, as are the desires or the 'intents of his heart' (Mosiah 5:13). Specifically, the verse is altered to refer to Christ's predestination as God's Son. But we read that the Nephite Twelve, while praying, 'did not multiply many words, for it was given unto them what they should pray, and they were filled with desire' (3 Ne. "Spirituality is not a function of occupation or calling. God The Father: Paul Addresses Five Doubts – Romans 8:31-39. Similarly, the Book of Mormon prophet Jacob taught that 'one being is as precious in [God's] sight as the other.' 26 Likewise the Spirit also ahelpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should bpray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh cintercession for us with dgroanings which cannot be uttered. TGÂ Carnal Mind; Chastity; Man, Natural, Not Spiritually Reborn. 30 Moreover whom he adid predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified. To donate online, please use the Calvin University secure giving site. shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword?' 27 And he that asearcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh bintercession for the saints according to the will of God. We are a people with promises. (October 12, 1965, BYU Speeches of the Year, 1965, p. 3). What Calvinism misunderstands is that such a calling does not predestinate the act, the thought, or the final reward of the individual. 8:38-39.). 'If God be for us, who can prevail against us?' (Rom. The biblical evidence for this is more than ample (see below), but still we are misrepresented. 2:11.) A scientist may be more spiritual than a theologian; a teacher may be more spiritual than an officer. 23 And not only they, but ourselves also, awhich have the bfirstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the cadoption, to wit, the redemption of our body. ), "Those who receive the gospel and join The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints have power given them to become the sons of God. Ironically, if the Master is a stranger to us, then we will merely end up serving other masters. 8:28.) Restoration scripture insists that God sent man to earth with freedom and responsibility. "To be spiritually minded is to view and evaluate our experiences in terms of the enlarged perspective of eternity. And yet, in his advanced years, life got harder, not easier. God may have called and chosen men in the spirit world or in their first estate to do a certain work, but whether they will accept that calling here and magnify it by faithful service and good works while in mortality is a matter in which it is their right and privilege to exercise their free agency to choose good or evil." A prophet on this western continent has spoken plainly on this subject, 'Being called and prepared from the foundation of the world according to the foreknowledge of God, on account of their exceeding faith and good works; in the first place being left to choose good or evil' (Alma 13:3). Paul is whispering in one ear, "you're free from the power of sin by the Savior's atonement." On the subject, he wrote, 'We call predestination God's eternal decree, by which he determined within himself what he willed to become of each man. This is the understatement of understatements, for 'Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him' (1 Cor. Romans 1:8 Context. Father went on his mission, leaving Mother at home with seven children. [London: Latter-day Saints' Book Depot, 1854-1886], 19: 2 - 3.). Christ is our example." ), "In the full and eternal sense, even in the true church, only those saints who enjoy the companionship of the Spirit belong to the Lord; they are the only ones who are the Lord's people in the sense of gaining salvation." It is the master cell of our spiritual battery. shall btribulation, or distress, or cpersecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword? Five Characteristics of a Saint - Romans 8:12-17 A. Romans 8:12-13 A Saint Puts to Death the Natural Man B. Romans 8:14 A Saint is led by the Spirit C. Romans 8:15-16 Adopted into the House of Israel D. Romans 8… What good is religion if it does not make our daily lives better? (To Reach Even unto You [Salt Lake City: Deseret Book Co., 1980], 16. (Rom. Dec 13, 2017 - For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come, Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of … Continued According to Paul's sermon on Mars Hill, '[God] hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of [our] habitation.' You may have promptings telling you what you need to repent of, how to draw closer to the Lord, specific steps toward the blessing, and so forth. It is unfortunate that so few will worthily prepare themselves and enter the strait gate and faithfully follow the narrow way to the end to earn the promising reward of eternal life and its joint-heirship with Christ of all that God the Father possesses." ("Spirituality," Ensign, Nov. 1985, 61), "...There are no more spiritually minded people on earth than the Latter-day Saints. And I urge you to take courage and be of good cheer. Yet, we know that the Lord's servants are also called from the foundation of the world. "If we are led by the Spirit of God in our lives, we are promised heirship with him and joint-heirship with Christ our Lord in the great estate of God's kingdom and glory. Through the lens of spirituality, we can know 'the things of God' by 'the Spirit of God.' We are so grateful to be able to provide timeless hymns to all and thankful to all who support us with gifts of time, talent and treasure. and ed., Joseph Smith's Commentary on the Bible [Salt Lake City: Deseret Book Co., 1994], 227. The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach; 9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. Hymns for Romans 8 from Hymnary.org, an authoritative index of hymns and hymnals. 3:17; Mosiah 5:2 (2â9). 1 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who awalk not after the bflesh, but after the cSpirit. Paul affirms: 'For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin. (See Romans 8:24. Still others complain that the wicked seem to get away with it! Now viewing scripture range from the book of Romans chapter 8:26 through chapter 8:27... Romans Chapter 8. "Executed in Rome, Paul sealed with his death his final testimony of his conviction of the divine sonship of Jesus Christ. It is evident in our words and actions." Romans 8:27 And He who searches our hearts knows the mind of the Spirit, because the Spirit intercedes for the saints according to the will of God. )...Christ-centered hope, however, is a very specific and particularized hope. Romans 8:12-39 Hope For the Saints → Romans 7:7-8:11 The Battle We All Face. "We all have challenges to face that test our courage. To see them following after the spirit of this world and gratifying the lust of the eye and of the mind, like the rest of mankind who have never enjoyed the spirit of the Gospel of life and salvation; and yet not so very strange when we realize the power of the enemy and the thousands of snares which he lays for the feet of the unwary, to draw the people astray from the things of God. ), "Moroni asked rhetorically, 'What should we hope for?' Accordingly, the scriptures speak of the earth as if it were a living soul capable of the entire range of human emotions (Prov. [Salt Lake City: Deseret Book Co., 1993], 156 - 157. Romans 8 is all about assurance of salvation. Spirituality is determined by personal outlook and priorities. There is not another people who are nearer to God their Father than are the Latter-day Saints; for they have the right to go to Him in their secret chamber, at the altar of prayer in their own homes; they can bow down and get very near unto the Lord, nearer, I think, than any other people. 19 For the aearnest expectation of the bcreature waiteth for the cmanifestation of the sons of God. (Moses 7:48-49) Similarly, Joseph Smith wrote that 'the whole earth groans under the weight of its iniquity' (DC 123:7). So likewise declared the Apostle Paul, 'For whom he did foreknow them he also called' (Romans 8:29-30). 8:16.)" 76:22-24. Skip to main content. Romans 8:26 - 8:27. For I am sure that neither death nor life, nor angels nor rulers, nor things present nor things to come, nor powers, nor height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God in Christ Jesus our Lord. 250), if only in the ranks of the indifferent." Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? ("Faith: The Essence of True Religion," Ensign, Nov. 1981, 6), There is...no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh, to be spiritually minded is life and peace, 'For the natural man is an enemy to God, and has been from the fall of Adam, and will be, forever and ever, unless he yields to the enticings of the Holy Spirit, and putteth off the natural man and becometh a saint through the atonement of Christ the Lord, and becometh as a child, submissive, meek, humble, patient, full of love, willing to submit to all things which the Lord seeth fit to inflict upon him, even as a child doth submit to his father. ), "In one sense, the sons of God are the spirit offspring of the Father, the ones who 'shouted for joy' when 'the foundations of the earth' were laid. (Kent P. Jackson, comp. Because he was the Son of God and had the fulness of the Spirit and greater power than any man. 9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. I find the following outline to be helpful when studying Romans 8:12-39 1. But in a more particular and express sense, they are the ones who accept Christ and his laws and press forward in devotion to truth and righteousness, living 'by every word that proceedeth forth from the mouth of God' (D. & C. 84:44), until they become new creatures of the Holy Ghost and are thus spiritually begotten of God. I want you to know that the Savior is with us in our difficult moments. Without an atoning sacrifice, the earth with everything in it, indeed all of creation, would be worthless. That is, night is as necessary as day; labor is as important as ease; uphill is as good as downhill; sickness and death serve us quite as well as health and strength." It won't be all roses. 17 Now if we are children, then we are heirs —heirs of God and co-heirs with Christ, if indeed we share in his sufferings in order that we may also share in his glory. 21 Because the acreature itself also shall be bdelivered from the bondage of ccorruption into the glorious dliberty of the children of God. A wise man said: 'The wealth of a soul is measured by how much it can feel; its poverty, by how little.' Be Ruled by the Spirit. (Mosiah 3:19). In fact, it was the central act in all of human history!" ), "Without the guidance of the Holy Spirit, 'we know not what we should pray for as we ought' (Rom. In contrast, we who have a testimony of the gospel of Jesus Christ should interpret our experiences in terms of our knowledge of the purpose of life, the mission of our Savior, and the eternal destiny of the children of God. As you study these chapters, you will notice that some of Paul's words can be harder to understand. They wish all to know that 'if God be for us, who can be against us?' "...We have...our animal instincts, the anger that comes to us, the unpleasant words that are spoken, making life unpleasant, rather than emphasizing the spiritual side, the real side of our nature. ), "This passage has disturbed many students of the New Testament-and rightly so. . (Romans 8:35.). ), "If you forget everything else that I say today, I hope you will remember Paul's great line to the Romans when he said, 'All things work together for the good of them that love God.' For more than three decades after that, he devoted his time, his strength, his life to the spreading of the gospel of the resurrected Lord. The law of Christ brings life and peaceâThose adopted as children of God become joint heirs with ChristâGodâs elect are foreordained to eternal lifeâChrist makes intercession for man. But the smaller sins breed there, too, like insects in the mud, including the coarsening of language. 23:17; Mal. 11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also aquicken your bmortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you. But this great energizer becomes dead when transgression creeps with stealth into our lives. None ever were perfect but Jesus, and why was he perfect? and ed., Joseph Smith's Commentary on the Bible [Salt Lake City: Deseret Book Co., 1994], 155.). "The world today speaks a great deal about love, and it is sought for by many. He will give us an equal interest in all this power and authority." (Jacob 2:21. For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come, Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord. There are no limitations on these scriptural declarations; we shall inherit all things-including the power to create and to beget. 10 And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness. ), "The task is to draw close enough to the Lord that we progress to the point where we petition Him according to His will, not ours. 8:29-30; Eph. Not only does it deny what Paul and other prophets taught about agency, but it also limits God's love to only a select few. ], "The number sharing these great and choice blessings will be limited. (Conference Report, October 1968, General Priesthood Meeting 100 - 101.). I outline Romans 7:7-8:11 as follows: Romans 7:7-8:11 The Battle We All Face: A New Spirit … 9:20)." (See Prov. Verse 25. Romans Chapter 8 is the last line on the test of life. TGÂ Birthright; Election; Eternal Life; Exaltation; Man, Potential to Become like Heavenly Father. It is that part of us wherein no other soul intrudes. Romans 8 teaches the idea that the Saints who follow Jesus Christ will one … (Mormon Doctrine, 2d ed. Why need there be emphasis put upon the carnal side of our natures? It would seem that many-too many-listen to Satan's alluring siren rather than Paul's liberating declaration of truth-that living by the Spirit makes one 'free from the law of sin and death.' But why should we expect those who 'mind the things of the flesh' to mind their tongues? (CR, April 1899, pp. "[You will] enjoy the same rise, exaltation, and glory, until you arrive at the station of a God. 38 For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come. This is Paul's third reason (see Romans 8:18). "How we interpret our experiences is also a function of our degree of spirituality. ), "I, too, have experienced what Paul taught when he said, 'The Spirit beareth witness that we are children of God. 19:24). Watch our overview video on the book of Romans, which breaks down the literary design of the book and its flow of thought. In that glorified state we shall look like our Savior (1 Jn. Every time I was with him I felt his goodness. (James 4:3. Along these lines, Paul speaks of all creation groaning and travailing in pain. ', "To Latter-day Saints, the idea of predestination is unscriptural. If we do, the Lord can make all things work together for our good and become blessings. (Romans 8:26. 7 Because the acarnal mind is benmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be. (Rom. ("The Peaceable Things of the Kingdom," Ensign, Nov. 1996, 83), "What is the message of the gospel? Some of those spend an entire lifetime angry at the God who desires to give them grace. 8:9], namely Christ's. Later, two daughters and their husbands filled full-time missions. Whatever we contribute in honest tithes and other contributions along with unselfish participation and service to our fellow men to build the kingdom of God on the earth, increases our personal joy and happiness in heirship with Christ the Lord. 20 For the creature was made subject to avanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope. Chapter 8. But as with the earth, so with us-the Atonement of Jesus Christ ends the groaning, the moaning, and the travailing. Image credits: All images above are from (or derived from)the LDS Come Follow Me resources. Paul helps us understand how to do this in Romans 8-16. "Spiritual submissiveness is not blind faith but deliberate obedience. GRÂ are at the point of withering, dying. If the test comes, we must be like the about-to-be-burned Abinadi, who desired to finish his message 'and then it matters not' (Mosiah 13:9); or the three young men, Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, who said it all in three brave and brief words: (Sermons Not Spoken [Salt Lake City: Bookcraft, 1985], 8. Romans 8:15-17 For ye have no… "They are exalted far above principalities, thrones, dominions, and angels, and are expressly declared to be heirs of God and joint heirs with Jesus Christ, all having eternal power." 8. Was not this truly a gift of love?" "In the important doctrinal discourse known as the 'King Follet Sermon' [Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, pp. 1 So now, those who are in Christ Jesus are not judged guilty. (Rom. The two other sisters, both widows-one the mother of eight and the other the mother of ten-served as missionary companions in Birmingham, England. 16 The Spirit itself beareth awitness with our bspirit, that we are the cchildren of God: 17 And if children, then heirs; aheirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we bsuffer with him, that we may be also glorified together. (Rom. 5:4-5; Rev. 15:49; 2 Cor. ', Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his, ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God, if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ, the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now, the Spirit also helpeth...for we know not what we should pray for, all things work together for good to them that love God, Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called. Those promptings will help you know what the Lord requires of you as you seek the blessing. Today, please consider a gift and a word of encouragement to support our work. (Kent P. Jackson, comp. 8:9 But ye are not after the flesh, but after the SpiritÂ â¦. It is here that we retreat and meditate. ("Godly Characteristics of the Master," Ensign, Nov. 1986, 47-48), "I must be careful about what I promise you as you try choosing to be good. ), "Predestination claims divine predetermination. (Hebrews 4:15-16.)" (Receiving Answers to Our Prayers [Salt Lake City: Deseret Book Co., 1996], 70. "It should be noted here that the LDS doctrine of deification is often misrepresented. (Lord, Increase Our Faith [Salt Lake City: Bookcraft, 1994], 20. "Then, being children of God, we can see our true destiny. (Jacob 4:13. He does so with a binding covenant with his faithful sons: Listen to the words of this promise: [D&C 84:40, quoted. by LDS Scripture of the Day |. We could even say that the time and place of our birth have been predestined. (William Rounseville Alger.)" The Lord often tests us, but his word is true. 2:7, 11). "Now we can understand the true place and dignity of man. JSTÂ Rom. 34 Who is he that condemneth? The message of the scriptures is that nothing can separate us from the love of Christ. The earth would have to be 'utterly wasted' (DC 2:3). Sitting with God upon the throne of God, we shall rule over all things (Luke 12:44; Rev. Now if any man have not the dSpirit of Christ, he is none of his. "It is a legacy that still continues to bless the Benson family even into the third and fourth generations. Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need.' 3 The law was without power, because the law was made weak by our sinful selves. Therefore, as any man has been created to one or the other of these ends, we speak of him as predestined to life or to death. Joseph Fielding Smith [Salt Lake City: Deseret Book Co., 1938], p. 365). 'If it be so, our God whom we serve is able to deliver us from the burning fiery furnace, and he will deliver us out of thine hand, O king. Romans 8 King James Version 1 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. This portion of our beings is reserved only for ourselves and our Creator; we open the portals thereof when we pray. 5 For they that are after the flesh do amind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit. Romans 8 English Standard Version Life in the Spirit 1 There is therefore now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus. 53:5). Through Christ, we are saved from the pain of our iniquities by the hope of a glorious resurrection (v. 23-24). [Salt Lake City: Bookcraft, 1991], 65.). If you are walking in the flesh but think that you are saved, this chapter will jar you into examining your heart. Clearly, when our prayers are uninspired, we petition for things we should not ask for, even though we do so innocently. "What is it? No scripture student can doubt that God planned this earth in advance-the question is whether man's agency is excluded. (See Rom. ), 'For the natural man is an enemy to God, and has been from the fall of Adam, and will be, forever and ever, unless he yields to the enticings of the Holy Spirit, and putteth off the natural man and becometh a saint through the atonement of Christ the Lord, and becometh as a child, submissive, meek, humble, patient, full of love, willing to submit to all things which the Lord seeth fit to inflict upon him, even as a child doth submit to his father.' 3:19.) 'Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be' (Romans 8:7). 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